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When is a word considered to be learned?

I have heard this before and read it at many places online, that generally if you can recall something 2-3 months after the last time you were exposed to it, that something is probably already in your long-term memory. Although the article on Wikipedia about long-term memory seems to give a lot of confusing contradictory definitions. Whatever, in zkanji I’ll mark a word as “learned” if you could answer it correctly after a period of 60 days. Haven’t decided about what to do with kanji yet. Probably something similar but when you could answer the written form of a word correctly that contains it. Learned kanji won’t be “unlearned” if the vocabulary goes back to the not-learned list though (after 1-2 wrong answers).

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  1. August 11, 2015 at 4:29 am

    Wanikani seems to use 4 months as their “Burned” level in their SRS system after which they stop asking you about things.

    • August 11, 2015 at 1:58 pm

      There’s nothing on their site about this (or at least I couldn’t find it). In zkanji if you answered something correctly after 4 months, the next time you see the same item will be after at least a year. I don’t plan to use “learned” or “burned” flag for deciding whether to ask something ever again.

      It will show up in the stats and I plan to use it to remove the “you absolutely don’t know this one” flag from items that get repeated to much. (Items that seem much harder than the average for the user are ignored when computing intervals and won’t influence some of the stats.)

      • August 13, 2015 at 6:11 am

        I’ve been using WaniKani myself for about a year now, and it seems to be working pretty well. Their SRS system has 9 tiers, with four labels. The delays between tiers (provided you keep answering correctly) are (4 hrs, 8 hrs, 1 day, 3, days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 4 months, and then you’re done with that item). The first four tiers are labeled “Apprentice”, the next two are “Guru”, then tiers 7,8, and 9 are “Master”, “Enlightened” and “Burned”. You’re right, they don’t really publicize the mechanics of their system much, but from experience working with it, and from what I’ve seen of their API and userscripts that interact with the system, that’s how it operates.

      • August 14, 2015 at 12:10 am

        The SRS in zkanji starts with 1 day and then every new interval is 2.5 times longer than the previous one. So 1 day, 2.5 days (which is in reality 3 days), ~1 week, 16 days, 1 and a half months, 3 months, 8 months and then around 2 years. This is dynamically changed the more items you learned because it tries to aim for optimal intervals.

        I could set tiers or label the items too to make the system sound cool or something. I will only do that if it’s meaningful in any way (so probably not).

  2. August 15, 2015 at 3:21 am

    That makes sense, yeah the names are more for branding and for the reporting output (you can see how many items you have in each of the named categories). I wouldn’t suggest throwing names on things without a specific purpose and applying the same multiplier to each tier also makes sense to me.

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